And the anti 4th gen people likely haven't test driven one. I hated my 3rd gen. This 4th gen from the initial standpoint is great - so much better in so many different ways. They kinda don't know what they're missing.
As far as manufacturing location... even the end of the 2nd gen line was...
But look at it this way; take the Tundra, which by many opinions, has turned into one of Toyota's less reliable vehicles lately. It's not any worse in its class than any of the others. Check the forums of the other full size players... lots of issues out there. I'll roll the dice with Toyota's...
I'll be the contrarion and say I like the TFL Truck guys. They're originals. Whether it's 100% perfect or not, I believe they try to be fair.
The YouTube comments and their negativity are just silly. It wasn't snowy. Fine. Nature isn't perfect.
The narrative that Toyota is the only one out of control is really not true. You want a Bison? It's well into the mid $60k range. Ranger Raptor looks like it's near $60k as well. They're all doing it. As I said in a post on TW...
Don't hate the player, hate the game.
I like that Bison as well. Toyota keeps winning me over with their commitment to port and direct injection combo, which is more useful to me than hard core rock crawling ability which I don't do. The stock OR is plenty for where I go. But again, that Bison is amazing.
How are the non-softex cloth seats? The OR Premium package is $4k more than the OR Upgrade package, and trying to assess one add on a at time whether they are worth it for that premium package. My initial thought is no, but... I'm coming from a vehicle with that softex type seat now, and it has...
Put me in the paranoia category... I'll admit it. But if you use one, aren't we reducing the "completeness" of the drain by raising the level in the sump at which oil can empty? How far up does that bolt go into the pan? 1/4"? 1/2"? I want as much old oil to drain as possible.
Again, not...