Did toyota make a mistake by no longer building the v six engine?

[Drm919]

I was hoping going from 3.5 L to 2.4 L Turbo would give a nice boost in mpg but maybe only 2-3 better depending on trim. Hybrid may be 6-8 better but how much more $$$ for hybrid?

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[Nuke]

I was hoping going from 3.5 L to 2.4 L Turbo would give a nice boost in mpg but maybe only 2-3 better depending on trim. Hybrid may be 6-8 better but how much more $$$ for hybrid?

Yep, do the math carefully, as for many drivers there is no long-term cost savings going to a hybrid unless one keeps it many years, then you are faced with the expenditure of a battery replacement in the neighborhood of $6K. In fact, you may be helping Toyota more than yourself, i.e. for them to meet federal MPG and emissions requirements.

 

[907Yota]

Only time will tell. My daily driver is a 1985 with a 4 cylinder 22RE engine. It is still running like clockwork after 300,000 miles and 38 years.

In the interim, I did buy a 4Runner with a V6 engine in it that lasted About 25 years and 160,000 miles.

In my case, the four-cylinder turned out to be much more reliable. And I already know that the 3.0L V6 Toyota came out with had a horrible and well-deserved reputation.

I have never owned a turbo, but I’m ready to roll the dice and give it a shot. I found the last generation V6 to be quite underwhelming.

 

[scooter66]

I’m seeing a few posts on a twin turbo V6 in a Tacoma; Toyota would never do that. Globally the 4 cylinder turbo makes sense. Toyota doesn’t give a rats ass about what Americans think would be cool. Toyota saves their best performance options for the Japanese market.

 

[Lando]

I’m glad the Tacoma has gone back to its roots and a 4 cylinder. Want a turbo, get a Tundra. The small trucks have long become bloated - I know it’s “mid size” size.

 

[TalkingTaco444]

Yep, do the math carefully, as for many drivers there is no long-term cost savings going to a hybrid unless one keeps it many years, then you are faced with the expenditure of a battery replacement in the neighborhood of $6K. In fact, you may be helping Toyota more than yourself, i.e. for them to meet federal MPG and emissions requirements.

no one is buying an iforce max for mpg. It’s a performance hybrid.

the added few MPG is just a nice extra.

 

[Nuke]

no one is buying an iforce max for mpg. It’s a performance hybrid.

the added few MPG is just a nice extra.

Better performance with less emissions, the latter dictated by the feds.

 

[Clervis]

A lot of folks are really underwhelmed by the MPGs in both the Tundra hybrid V6, and the announced Tacoma non-hybrid. The truth is gas prices aren't as compelling in the US as we pretend they are--or remember them being. Toyota knows that, and knows Americans are more inclined to base their purchase on performance than efficiency. Gas prices today are near what they were in 2008, when new vehicles were about 45% cheaper (mostly due to inflation). In terms of cumulative cost of ownership, fuel has been halved.

Gas prices aren't climbing any time soon either. There are multiple global geopolitical shitstorms that are encouraging the US to stay the top global oil producer. Mandating emissions standards seem to be a much more politically expedient means to reduce emissions, and is less visible at the register.

 

[TalkingTaco444]

Better performance with less emissions, the latter dictated by the feds.

which in no way bothers me.

More torque, more mpg and less emissions than a raptor? Cool with me.

 

[Kielly]

I'm not overly disappointed in Toyota's decision to drop an i4 in there, although seeing the near same gas mileage, 0-60 head to head with the previous gen V6, and abnormally low rev limit for the manual, it is a little disappointing. I definitely wouldn't have complained if they made the Tacoma a powerhouse by dropping a twin turbo V6, and I'd definitely be sold, but an i4 will also do the job just fine for what I'll need any mid sized truck for.

I actually would've been less inclined to get this new Tacoma if they didn't kill that gutless, thirsty V6 engine they previously had.

 

[Ron]

I actually would've been less inclined to get this new Tacoma if they didn't kill that gutless, thirsty V6 engine they previously had.

Agreed. Without a new powertrain Tacoma woudnt even be my initial list, let alone the short list.
The torque at lower rpm is a huge improvement and i wouldnt need a proper v6 in this truck. Im not racing it.

 

[mramseyisu]

A lot of folks are really underwhelmed by the MPGs in both the Tundra hybrid V6, and the announced Tacoma non-hybrid. The truth is gas prices aren't as compelling in the US as we pretend they are--or remember them being. Toyota knows that, and knows Americans are more inclined to base their purchase on performance than efficiency. Gas prices today are near what they were in 2008, when new vehicles were about 45% cheaper (mostly due to inflation). In terms of cumulative cost of ownership, fuel has been halved.

Gas prices aren't climbing any time soon either. There are multiple global geopolitical shitstorms that are encouraging the US to stay the top global oil producer. Mandating emissions standards seem to be a much more politically expedient means to reduce emissions, and is less visible at the register.

Anybody still bitching about gas prices in the US should go take a trip anywhere else in the world that isn't a developing country, rent a car and pay for fuel for a week or two. Our fuel prices on average are right in the middle of the pack globally. It's hard to find lower priced gas than we have outside of the middle east.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/

 

[Kielly]

Anybody still bitching about gas prices in the US should go take a trip anywhere else in the world that isn't a developing country, rent a car and pay for fuel for a week or two. Our fuel prices on average are right in the middle of the pack globally. It's hard to find lower priced gas than we have outside of the middle east.

https://www.globalpetrolprices.com/gasoline_prices/

Ain't the US average like $3/G? I'm paying $5.56/G here in Canada, it's.... greaaaat

I'll definitely bitch about that all day long. I remember paying under $1/L years ago, sad world it's becoming.

 

[mramseyisu]

Ain't the US average like $3/G? I'm paying $5.56/G here in Canada, it's.... greaaaat

I'll definitely bitch about that all day long. I remember paying under $1/L years ago, sad world it's becoming.

According to that list average price in the US is $3.45 a gallon compared to $4.69 a gallon up there in America's hat. You've got more room to complain than anybody in the US but there are still around 90 some countries that have higher gas prices than you do. You're still under the global average of $4.90 per gallon in Canada so I can't imagine most people in the world have a lot of sympathy for you.

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