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Pretty generic statement and not correct for all. I don’t want a sunroof and most truck guys I know up here don’t. A lot of the city guys that “need” a truck want a sunroof, along with a 5’ bed so it is easy to park in their condo or downtown. My reasons for not wanting a sunroof is less...

Fake news. This post literally made me want to dispel this fake news. Told by someone that is lucky enough to have them at their dealerships. Why even post without researching areas outside your area? I want one, I have 3 different model choices I can live with, 2 different colours of the...

Thank you for sharing @Garemz. That was great info and wish I had a salesman like that.

I will, 😆. Though I agree with your statement I am not shy about the 2nd and 3rd gen shortcomings. The seating position to the weird shifting and the fact that it loses out in every category the 4th gen improved on made it a non starter for me. Watch 3rd gen values plummet over the next...

It really looks like 3rd gen values are about to fall. Especially after the 4th gen has been out for a couple of years. The new one is better in just about every way. Love these real owner reviews.

Yes, Granville Toyota is saying end of March for the first demo model. It was moved from end date of January to end of February and now it’s on hold for something at the rail yard.

Just reaffirms my belief on how much better the 4th gen is over the 3rd gen. The poor seating and inefficient V6 of the 3rd gen made it so it was never a consideration to me in the last 20 years. They’re two totally different beasts.

I understand why people get a crew cab on mid sized truck with a 6’ bed. Trucks have grown in size so much and full size truck’s have also. It make sense to have a reasonable sized truck with a useful size bed. The whole point of the mid sized truck was a smaller truck. That has long been...

Your auto correct misspelled “good”. 😏

This I understand and is a good point and reason to want a shorter overall length. To be fair, all makes of crew cabs with 5’ or 5.5’ look off. It’s the proportions of the long cab and hood and a shorter bed on the back. With a 6’ bed it looks more balanced.

5’ bed crew cabs are goofy looking. For those worried about break over angle there should be a regular cab or extended cab off roader with 5’ bed.

Mine will be the same truck as yours but with the black and white seats. It’s coming off too.

I like those black seats better than the gray Off Road seats.

I have thought this since day one and hoped it was just pre-production versions that looked like a hot mess under the hood.

5 mpg. How big is the tank, 18 gallons? There is a few stretches in the interior mountains you may need to carry a Jerry can of gas. Good to know if needed it can tow a car through mountains though, not going to do that all the time anyway.

I refuse to vote as red is not available as it is in the US. So the vote is rigged to reinforce Toyota marketing’s decision Canada only needs these four colours. It’s basically shades of gray from white to black that are available. Fun.

I can confirm at least a Sport + in Canada does not have it. No button no start stop. Yeeee haw!

Stock tires usually not the best no matter the manufacturer. They make cheaper versions in bulk for production. I was planning on getting OWL BFG or Cooper all weathers anyway.

Thank you for your responses good sir. For the inside pic would you take one of the roof inside to see where the roof dips for the sunroof and how much. Also are you saying it does have a power tailgate, in that you press the button on the side and it lowers? As well as closes by itself. No...

How does the sunroof affect headroom? Any pics of it inside. Did you get to sit in a non sunroof truck for comparison?