List of Unsold 2024 Tacoma Affected by the Transmission TSB as of 11/22/24

[OlafTheNork]

I agree with 'timetoeatpotatoes'. Yes, we should be able to count the VIN #s affected by this simply by looking at the last TSB (T-SB-0094-24) then counting the numbers listed in the last 6 digits of each row. This assumes that each row VIN # starts at "1". I believe this includes those sold/delivered, unsold/allocated, unsold/unallocatable. This gives me 17 rows and a total "universe" per the TSP of 379,138.

This may or may not be correct. It is a large number. What is intuitively obvious is that anyone who bought one of these TSB-affected vehicles has suffered a loss of "market value". Those that are unsold have also lost value where a new buyer should get a big discount. Market value has been lost simply because by "direct implication" these vehicles have transmission-torque converter (and hybrid motor) combinations that have a "reasonable possibility" of failure, and given what we've read on forums, a rather quick (stuck 6th gear) and not driveable failure at that.

Meaning, who would want to own/drive one of these on a expressway, or bad area of town, off road without cell service, or tow a camper, or travel with kids in the car, when the transmission might suddently fail? I wouldn't. Meaning it's not safe to "use the truck" as it's intended to be used. And I'm going to file a Lemon Law complaint and if they won't do a recall then they can buy the truck back after some depreciation/mileage deduction. I will also file immediately a NTSB complaint because these puppies are not safe, as they are subject to the TSB.

One of my favoriate sayings is: "One cannot ignore the implications of known facts.". And the fact that it is "reasonably possible" these affected VIN # transmissions will fail is public knowledge due to the TSB. At least in the mid-60s when the first M-16s failed in the field due to failed receivers the defense dept didn't wait until they all failed before replacing them.

Last point: my guess is don't wait for the '25 Tacomas. Their trannys will all go in our '24s that are subject to the TSB via an eventual recall.

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[Gerbear]

I don’t know why they aren’t offering to at least drop the pan on all these trucks and change out the filter and fluid and inspect for debris

I totally agree, and that would make sense. There are 2 magnets at the bottom of the transmission pan, and could be inspected after the pan is off.

 

[Gfenza89]

I totally agree, and that would make sense. There are 2 magnets at the bottom of the transmission pan, and could be inspected after the pan is off.

Yeah cheap easy quick inspection and replace the units that need it and keep your loyal customers happy

 

[Gerbear]

I agree with 'timetoeatpotatoes'. Yes, we should be able to count the VIN #s affected by this simply by looking at the last TSB (T-SB-0094-24) then counting the numbers listed in the last 6 digits of each row. This assumes that each row VIN # starts at "1". I believe this includes those sold/delivered, unsold/allocated, unsold/unallocatable. This gives me 17 rows and a total "universe" per the TSP of 379,138.

This may or may not be correct. It is a large number. What is intuitively obvious is that anyone who bought one of these TSB-affected vehicles has suffered a loss of "market value". Those that are unsold have also lost value where a new buyer should get a big discount. Market value has been lost simply because by "direct implication" these vehicles have transmission-torque converter (and hybrid motor) combinations that have a "reasonable possibility" of failure, and given what we've read on forums, a rather quick (stuck 6th gear) and not driveable failure at that.

Meaning, who would want to own/drive one of these on a expressway, or bad area of town, off road without cell service, or tow a camper, or travel with kids in the car, when the transmission might suddently fail? I wouldn't. Meaning it's not safe to "use the truck" as it's intended to be used. And I'm going to file a Lemon Law complaint and if they won't do a recall then they can buy the truck back after some depreciation/mileage deduction. I will also file immediately a NTSB complaint because these puppies are not safe, as they are subject to the TSB.

One of my favoriate sayings is: "One cannot ignore the implications of known facts.". And the fact that it is "reasonably possible" these affected VIN # transmissions will fail is public knowledge due to the TSB. At least in the mid-60s when the first M-16s failed in the field due to failed receivers the defense dept didn't wait until they all failed before replacing them.

Last point: my guess is don't wait for the '25 Tacomas. Their trannys will all go in our '24s that are subject to the TSB via an eventual recall.

Great post and I totally agree. Even though nothing has gone wrong with my 2024 yet, I was planning a one month, 5000 km trip towing our travel trailer around California, Nevada, Arizona and Utah in early 2025. So yes it does affect me, as now am I'm rolling the dice hoping I don't get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Obviously it would be in the back of my mind the whole trip. Could you imagine getting towed to a Toyota dealership a thousand miles from home and waiting at least a month for a transmission replacement? What the hell would I do for transportation in the meantime, let alone the travel trailer?! I agree with other posts that they should do something pre-emptively and check the trucks within the VIN range, such as dropping the pan and check for shavings (there are 2 magnets in the pan), completely flush it, etc. Wouldn't cost Toyota that much and at least give some piece of mind. So yes this not only affects the owners with transmissions that have failed, but also the rest of us that are driving around with fingers crossed, driving the Interstate 15 from Barstow to Vegas and rolling the dice. (excuse the pun). You bring up a great point as well about lower resale value.

 

[Gfenza89]

Great post and I totally agree. Even though nothing has gone wrong with my 2024 yet, I was planning a one month, 5000 km trip towing our travel trailer around California, Nevada, Arizona and Utah in early 2025. So yes it does affect me, as now am I'm rolling the dice hoping I don't get stranded in the middle of nowhere. Obviously it would be in the back of my mind the whole trip. Could you imagine getting towed to a Toyota dealership a thousand miles from home and waiting at least a month for a transmission replacement? What the hell would I do for transportation in the meantime, let alone the travel trailer?! I agree with other posts that they should do something pre-emptively and check the trucks within the VIN range, such as dropping the pan and check for shavings (there are 2 magnets in the pan), completely flush it, etc. Wouldn't cost Toyota that much and at least give some piece of mind. So yes this not only affects the owners with transmissions that have failed, but also the rest of us that are driving around with fingers crossed, driving the Interstate 15 from Barstow to Vegas and rolling the dice. (excuse the pun). You bring up a great point as well about lower resale value.

Exactly Toyota is really abandoning us early 4th gen buyers and it’s pretty messed up on their part to leave us hanging… then you’ve got the people like me that have weird shifting transmissions and part of the tsb and what is the answer….crickets . It’s really frustrating to buy the supposed most durable reliable truck out there for this price point and be left with a defective truck out of the gate that the manufacturer has already admitted to there being a major issue….

 

[Muaythaimountain]

Today I was offered by my local dealer for a truck affected by the TSB. How much discount would make you buy one?

 

[TacoFreak]

To be honest I wouldn't buy one at any price at this point. Transmissions are still failing in trucks made recently and not covered by the TSB, so this is still unfolding.

It would have to be a really large discount for me to even consider buying any Tacoma with an automatic. Maybe 10-20% under MSRP.

 

[CrispyTacoLover]

I agree with 'timetoeatpotatoes'. Yes, we should be able to count the VIN #s affected by this simply by looking at the last TSB (T-SB-0094-24) then counting the numbers listed in the last 6 digits of each row. This assumes that each row VIN # starts at "1". I believe this includes those sold/delivered, unsold/allocated, unsold/unallocatable. This gives me 17 rows and a total "universe" per the TSP of 379,138.

This may or may not be correct. It is a large number. What is intuitively obvious is that anyone who bought one of these TSB-affected vehicles has suffered a loss of "market value". Those that are unsold have also lost value where a new buyer should get a big discount. Market value has been lost simply because by "direct implication" these vehicles have transmission-torque converter (and hybrid motor) combinations that have a "reasonable possibility" of failure, and given what we've read on forums, a rather quick (stuck 6th gear) and not driveable failure at that.

Meaning, who would want to own/drive one of these on a expressway, or bad area of town, off road without cell service, or tow a camper, or travel with kids in the car, when the transmission might suddently fail? I wouldn't. Meaning it's not safe to "use the truck" as it's intended to be used. And I'm going to file a Lemon Law complaint and if they won't do a recall then they can buy the truck back after some depreciation/mileage deduction. I will also file immediately a NTSB complaint because these puppies are not safe, as they are subject to the TSB.

One of my favoriate sayings is: "One cannot ignore the implications of known facts.". And the fact that it is "reasonably possible" these affected VIN # transmissions will fail is public knowledge due to the TSB. At least in the mid-60s when the first M-16s failed in the field due to failed receivers the defense dept didn't wait until they all failed before replacing them.

Last point: my guess is don't wait for the '25 Tacomas. Their trannys will all go in our '24s that are subject to the TSB via an eventual recall.

Good luck.

https://www.in.gov/attorneygeneral/consumer-protection-division/files/Lemon_Law.pdf

 

[CrispyTacoLover]

Transmissions are still failing in trucks made recently and not covered by the TSB, so this is still unfolding.

Really? Maybe I missed that. Where are those reports?

 

[OlafTheNork]

Really? Maybe I missed that. Where are those reports?

Do an internal search with the word "outside". Even in the first return page there are several references.

 

[WKTJR1]

I searched “2024 tacoma transmission fail outside tsb” and got nothing. Lots of articles but nothing new.

Click in the box.

 

[CrispyTacoLover]

Click in the box.

Reddit Friday fake news

 

[OlafTheNork]

I searched “2024 tacoma transmission fail outside tsb” and got nothing. Lots of articles but nothing new.

But many "existing". 'Not sure of your definition of "new".

 

[CrispyTacoLover]

But many "existing". 'Not sure of your definition of "new".

People reporting issues outside the tsb VINS. Got It?

I was responding to TacoFreaks bold statement, but you butted in and can’t seem to follow the thread track. Maybe butt out?

 

[OlafTheNork]

As The Who said, "Go to the mirror boy...". Clearly, if you're in your "element", or anyone's element for that sake, if you search existing posts with the word "outside", you'll find the several posts that are "outside" the TSB. Rather than putting your effort into dissing people trying to help you, please consider putting that effort into the advice offered. You just might get the help you need.

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