Toyota Hybrid System Explained

[StreeTaco]

Here’s an excellent video explaining the Tacoma’s hybrid system. Very cool tech here!

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[JimS]

Yikes, very complicated.

 

[Gear_yyc]

Super helpful video. I do wish they set it up for a bit better mileage, but it's a pretty nice system and I like that it can operate purely mechanical if anything goes wrong with the hybrid system.

 

[TalkingTaco444]

Yikes, very complicated.

What is complicated?

 

[JimS]

What is complicated?

All of it put together, which is largely inherent to a hybrid system. Some things that stuck out to me:

• Inherent presence for a hybrid of both an ICE and BEV powertrain
• Twin turbo, dual cam, dual injection V6
• Electric motor with clutch
• Transmission with 2 oil pumps
• Multiple cooling systems/fans

Compared to the eloquent engineering of the hybrid system in the smaller vehicles this seems more complicated. There's obviously reasons for it, just grosses me out.

 

[TalkingTaco444]

All of it put together, which is largely inherent to a hybrid system. Some things that stuck out to me:

• Inherent presence for a hybrid of both an ICE and BEV powertrain
• Twin turbo, dual cam, dual injection V6
• Electric motor with clutch
• Transmission with 2 oil pumps
• Multiple cooling systems/fans

Compared to the eloquent engineering of the hybrid system in the smaller vehicles this seems more complicated. There's obviously reasons for it, just grosses me out.

Well for starters it’s not a BEV.

that aside, much of what you mentioned isn’t new tech.

 

[JimS]

Well for starters it’s not a BEV.

that aside, much of what you mentioned isn’t new tech.

There is a battery to propel the vehicle. It's just not an only-battery electric vehicle. I never said it's all new technology. I said it's complicated. Not sure why you're so defensive.

 

[Gear_yyc]

What is complicated?

That was my thought, too. It's effectively the same powertrain as the non-hybrid, but with the addition of a small motor + clutch. The rest is just control of the motor.

 

[TalkingTaco444]

There is a battery to propel the vehicle. It's just not an only-battery electric vehicle. I never said it's all new technology. I said it's complicated. Not sure why you're so defensive.

who is defensive? I’m having a conversation…

it seems you’re getting defensive for me correcting you.

its not a BEV.


Battery electric vehicle (BEV)
Battery Electric Vehicles (BEV) are powered entirely by electricity. A BEV has no internal combustion engine (ICE), no fuel tank, and no exhaust pipe. Instead, it has one or more electric motors powered by a larger battery, which must be charged through an external outlet. You’ll want to have a powerful charger that can fully charge your vehicle overnight, like the JuiceBox Level 2 Home charger — more on that below.

 

[Tsturbo]

After watching the video, are you MORE or LESS inclined to purchase with or without Hybrid iForceMAX?

 

[StreeTaco]

More inclined. Own a 2010 Prius with 300k miles, zero issues. I welcome this tech

 

[JBSwine]

After watching the video, are you MORE or LESS inclined to purchase with or without Hybrid iForceMAX?

I love the tech, but at what cost? 95% of my drives are 15 miles or less and under 55MPH. Would be great for me since I do so much city driving. But I will never save $4k of gas if that is what the extra cost is.

 

[tswift]

I love the tech, but at what cost? 95% of my drives are 15 miles or less and under 55MPH. Would be great for me since I do so much city driving. But I will never save $4k of gas if that is what the extra cost is.

Correct. That's my main issue with it is that it's an additional cost. A premium option. I understand it's additional technology and it costs more to produce and put it in there, but at the end of the day aren't automotive manufacturers supposed to be incentivising consumers forward in EVs? Ford did the same thing with the Maverick. Where are the breaks and price incentives for going green.

 

[StreeTaco]

Remember this is not green tech, this is power tech. It’s called Max , not IForce Eco

 

[JBSwine]

Correct. That's my main issue with it is that it's an additional cost. A premium option. I understand it's additional technology and it costs more to produce and put it in there, but at the end of the day aren't automotive manufacturers supposed to be incentivising consumers forward in EVs? Ford did the same thing with the Maverick. Where are the breaks and price incentives for going green.

Yes and no. Not including a dedicated EV manufacture......They only want to encourage you enough to meet CAFE standards.

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