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And for a lot of us Sport gives us the best mpg too.
Really? I'm going to have to try that. I usually drive in normal but have been using eco lately. It hasn't changed my km/l reading but I notice when I've filled up I seem to be getting more mileage from the tank. Used to be about 430km and last fill was 480km. I'll have to try sport mode and see what happens.
 

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Really? I'm going to have to try that. I usually drive in normal but have been using eco lately. It hasn't changed my km/l reading but I notice when I've filled up I seem to be getting more mileage from the tank. Used to be about 430km and last fill was 480km. I'll have to try sport mode and see what happens.
News to me! Sport steering is stiffer which is nice on the highway but less nice when parking.
 

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I just got home from driving at speeds of 30 mph or less and it did 20.6 mpg in Sport mode. A new record!

Oh yeah - no wierd creep in my truck at all - just behaves like any automatic. Strange that trucks with identical drivetrains behave so differently.
 

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I’ve been really looking out for these issues on my TH over the past several days and have not experienced any issues.
 

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I knew a guy that called that the short circuit between the truck and the road.

Seriously though, I trust what people post about this, but why would theoretically identical trucks behave so differently? My truck just feels like every other automatic that I have ever driven, so something is different here.
 

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I knew a guy that called that the short circuit between the truck and the road.

Seriously though, I trust what people post about this, but why would theoretically identical trucks behave so differently? My truck just feels like every other automatic that I have ever driven, so something is different here.
So, this isn’t the answer or to argue your point - but driver habits could account for a lot here.

Not that anyone is driving right or wrong, more so the difference in brake force/application from one driver to the next is likely the reason why it’s manifesting for some and not others.

Which is also to say, this is likely something you could adjust to or never experience at all.

I doubt there is a manufacturing variable from one truck to the next that leads to this issue… and it is such an infrequent issue, in my experience, that i’d understand it being overlooked.

I’m a track-rat and consider myself a pretty focussed driver. I can be both deliberately hard on and light on the brakes.

My concern is, even if it’s light application force by the driver, if the car came to a stop on the ICE, it should stay stopped while the same brake force is applied, even when it swaps to electric. The driver shouldn't have to further revaluate brake force from a stop when the electric motor comes on.
 

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From what I can tell people with this complaint have trucks that behave a lot differently than mine. Most of them have probably been driving automatics their whole lives, so I really don't think it is driver error.

My ICE never restarts until I release the brake and apply some pressure on the accelerator pedal. So there is never any jump or creep - with normal brake pressure it never moves until I release the brake. I don't have to reevaluate my brake pressure because the drive force when stopped is what is normal for any other automatic I have driven.

When I release the brake pedal and give it some "throttle" the motor starts the truck moving and then about a second later the ICE joins in. But there is never any jerk or creep or bumps in that cycle in my truck. That is why I think there is some difference between trucks that do that and ones like mine that don't.
 

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I think it’s the tranny down shifting into first
 

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My first cold 1-2 shift of the day is harsh. I’m in the TSB range.. still trucking tho, no problems, about 6500 miles.
Yeah, I think it shifts into first after stopping and then wants to creep. Rarely is my engine running coming to a stop, but when it is, I’ve noticed some creepiness to it. I use the HOLD function 99% the time, love it.
 
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So, this isn’t the answer or to argue your point - but driver habits could account for a lot here.

Not that anyone is driving right or wrong, more so the difference in brake force/application from one driver to the next is likely the reason why it’s manifesting for some and not others.

Which is also to say, this is likely something you could adjust to or never experience at all.

I doubt there is a manufacturing variable from one truck to the next that leads to this issue… and it is such an infrequent issue, in my experience, that i’d understand it being overlooked.

I’m a track-rat and consider myself a pretty focussed driver. I can be both deliberately hard on and light on the brakes.

My concern is, even if it’s light application force by the driver, if the car came to a stop on the ICE, it should stay stopped while the same brake force is applied, even when it swaps to electric. The driver shouldn't have to further revaluate brake force from a stop when the electric motor comes on.
You hit the nail on the head about how everyone brakes a bit different. I am mostly a "light braker" and anticipate my stops.
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