Tacoma Limited : Blackout Progress

[Baltimore]

Your truck looks great! I just bought a '24 limited and am looking to do the same thing. I bought the front bumper lower panel to replace the chrome but the replacement I received doesn't have the holes for the park sensors. There were only three part numbers on the diagram: chrome with fog lights, black with fog lights, black without fog lights. I bought the black with fog lights. Did you have to drill the holes yourself? Also, did you reuse the glued on sensor brackets or order new ones? Thanks! @Gurvy522

No. Well.. you could. You need upper bumper variant #5 (53931-AK050) if you want black with fog with sensor.
You will also need two sensor mounts that stick to the backside. The black ringed ones are part number 89348-04010-C.

The sensor clips are 3M tape, not reusable.

I made the error the first time of ordering variant #1 based on posts and (incorrect) eBay listings. Had to eat the cost to rebuy the correct one.

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[Baltimore]

Side note:
Rave's camera bracket is actually outside of system tolerance for Toyota. While it can be adjusted to +162 to get visual alignment, if one has to run a recalibration, it will fail and disable all your 360 degree cameras and steering lines.
(Yes, I know others have said +165, but +162 is what the head tech at the dealership ended up)

Rave is playing radio silence on the problem they created.

It's now going to cost me $$$ of an estimated half day of shop time to correct and I was given two options: either restore the original grille and camera mount to recalibrate properly... OR... Remount the camera upside down as "grille variant 2" expects and then recalibrate.

Once the calibration fails, you are left with your front and rear tailgate cameras only with no guidance features.

Will post more when the saga is over

 

[Sapperfitz]

No. Well.. you could. You need upper bumper variant #5 (53931-AK050) if you want black with fog with sensor.
You will also need two sensor mounts that stick to the backside. The black ringed ones are part number 89348-04010-C.

The sensor clips are 3M tape, not reusable.

I made the error the first time of ordering variant #1 based on posts and (incorrect) eBay listings. Had to eat the cost to rebuy the correct one.

Thank you! That one is on backorder everywhere right now so I may drill in the interim. There is a template etched on the backside of the one I ordered, so that will help with location.

 

[hogshooter]

which door handle covers did you buy? Are you satisfied with them? Does touch unlock work reliably with them?

 

[Delta1Seven]

which door handle covers did you buy? Are you satisfied with them? Does touch unlock work reliably with them?

I went with these: https://a.co/d/bcrE4Yj

I went with matte, as I feel most gloss black plastic scratches so easily. I will say on my limited the back side of the OEM door handles are indeed gloss black. So with these matte overlays, I technically have a mis-match. As OCD as I am, I don't really notice it, and I don't think anyone else has ever noticed it.

I still will take the barely noticeable mismatch over having scratched black plastic (assuming they scratch easily, but I haven't tested).

Either way, these are the style you want. They are overlays and only cover the OEM paint color part of the handle. So touch and auto-unlock when you put your hand behind the handle still works! I think these where one of the best mods I have done to my truck for the price lol

 

[Delta1Seven]

Side note:
Rave's camera bracket is actually outside of system tolerance for Toyota. While it can be adjusted to +162 to get visual alignment, if one has to run a recalibration, it will fail and disable all your 360 degree cameras and steering lines.
(Yes, I know others have said +165, but +162 is what the head tech at the dealership ended up)

Rave is playing radio silence on the problem they created.

It's now going to cost me $$$ of an estimated half day of shop time to correct and I was given two options: either restore the original grille and camera mount to recalibrate properly... OR... Remount the camera upside down as "grille variant 2" expects and then recalibrate.

Once the calibration fails, you are left with your front and rear tailgate cameras only with no guidance features.

Will post more when the saga is over

I'm just curious on what exactly the issue and the preliminary resolution is? Is this not as simple as adjusting the value to say, +165?

I 3d printed the bracket that the Original Poster of this thread linked in another thread, and it seemed to work well (and I assume it is very similar to Raves).

I calibrated my cameras using the service menu on the infotainment (took about 5 minutes).

I then realized my rear camera was mis-aligned (came from factory this way) so I spend some time calibrating all my cameras using the procedure outlined in the service manual.

 

[webshot]

This old boomer loves chrome

Richard

Agreed! Don't touch my chrome!

 

[Baltimore]

I'm just curious on what exactly the issue and the preliminary resolution is? Is this not as simple as adjusting the value to say, +165?

I 3d printed the bracket that the Original Poster of this thread linked in another thread, and it seemed to work well (and I assume it is very similar to Raves).

I calibrated my cameras using the service menu on the infotainment (took about 5 minutes).

I then realized my rear camera was mis-aligned (came from factory this way) so I spend some time calibrating all my cameras using the procedure outlined in the service manual.

Now that you've completed that process, have you attempted to perform the full 360 degree camera system recalibration? That's where the problem manifests. Toyota has some internal software limitations on how much + / - adjustment each camera can have before triggering "out of tolerance". While corporate engineers would not share exactly what the threshold is, it was found that doing +162 (what the dealership head tech found to be a perfect alignment on my vehicle) threw the system error and would not allow them to proceed without the angle adjustment coming back into the {undefined} tolerance zone.
... I suspect this could be the reason that the heritage grille flip the camera module upside down in the factory setup.

If someone 3D printed their own design, they could have ended up at a slightly different angle requiring less software adjustment and then either: not running the full calibration yet, or be within the {undefined} tolerance.

 

[Delta1Seven]

Now that you've completed that process, have you attempted to perform the full 360 degree camera system recalibration? That's where the problem manifests. Toyota has some internal software limitations on how much + / - adjustment each camera can have before triggering "out of tolerance". While corporate engineers would not share exactly what the threshold is, it was found that doing +162 (what the dealership head tech found to be a perfect alignment on my vehicle) threw the system error and would not allow them to proceed without the angle adjustment coming back into the {undefined} tolerance zone.
... I suspect this could be the reason that the heritage grille flip the camera module upside down in the factory setup.

If someone 3D printed their own design, they could have ended up at a slightly different angle requiring less software adjustment and then either: not running the full calibration yet, or be within the {undefined} tolerance.

Yes, I performed the full 360 calibration, and I calibrated each individual camera to get it all aligned (better than factory).

Do you know if the tech was making the adjustments through the service menu (linked below)? Or techstream (laptop)?

Do you know where they are seeing this error they said?

I know this sounds dumb, but there is a button to toggle the guidance lines on/off when viewing the camera. Have you tried pressing that button? Does it give you an error message of some sorts?


I just made this post: https://www.tacoma4g.com/forum/threads/how-to-recalibrate-your-360-cameras.11923/

 

[Baltimore]

Yes, I performed the full 360 calibration, and I calibrated each individual camera to get it all aligned (better than factory).

Do you know if the tech was making the adjustments through the service menu (linked below)? Or techstream (laptop)?

Do you know where they are seeing this error they said?

I know this sounds dumb, but there is a button to toggle the guidance lines on/off when viewing the camera. Have you tried pressing that button? Does it give you an error message of some sorts?


I just made this post: https://www.tacoma4g.com/forum/threads/how-to-recalibrate-your-360-cameras.11923/

unfortunately, all I know is they had the truck for over 4 hours and the tech had to call the head service manager over to try and resolve it. that they had to get on the phone with corporate and that when they explained everything to the corporate engineer they were told it exceeded tolerance and would not allow things to reactivate until the camera angle was brought back into tolerance. And that would be an estimated 3h of shop time once I put the correct camera assembly on the vehicle and they could change the grille type in techstream.

In my vehicle, all the buttons for the camera system are now grayed out with the exception of front view, rear tailgate view, and bird-eye view. you cannot toggle the side mirror cameras or or off, you cannot toggle to the bed camera, you cannot activate or deactivate the guidance lines.

I only have their words to go off of, and I don't have the cable for renting techstream and from what I can tell, it's ~$650-$700 for the cable and techstream rental vs. an estimated $500 in service dept fees. I just feel stuck.

I've already ordered the heritage camera assembly and that's not sitting in my garage, which will flip my view upside down until techstream gets involved one way or another.

It's been very frustrating when I was expected to have your experience... bump the camera angle up and recalibrate and move on with life.

 

[Delta1Seven]

unfortunately, all I know is they had the truck for over 4 hours and the tech had to call the head service manager over to try and resolve it. that they had to get on the phone with corporate and that when they explained everything to the corporate engineer they were told it exceeded tolerance and would not allow things to reactivate until the camera angle was brought back into tolerance. And that would be an estimated 3h of shop time once I put the correct camera assembly on the vehicle and they could change the grille type in techstream.

In my vehicle, all the buttons for the camera system are now grayed out with the exception of front view, rear tailgate view, and bird-eye view. you cannot toggle the side mirror cameras or or off, you cannot toggle to the bed camera, you cannot activate or deactivate the guidance lines.

I only have their words to go off of, and I don't have the cable for renting techstream and from what I can tell, it's ~$650-$700 for the cable and techstream rental vs. an estimated $500 in service dept fees. I just feel stuck.

I've already ordered the heritage camera assembly and that's not sitting in my garage, which will flip my view upside down until techstream gets involved one way or another.

It's been very frustrating when I was expected to have your experience... bump the camera angle up and recalibrate and move on with life.

I'm gonna be honest, I feel like the messed something up. Adjusting the camera was super easy. If you where only adjusting it to the +162, it literally should have taken them less than 5 minutes.

In the link I posted in my previous post, it shows how to get to the service menu in your truck. You should try to got to that. I think there is a function's test somewhere. Maybe give that a go and see if it shows anything that may be causing this?

 

[Baltimore]

I'm gonna be honest, I feel like the messed something up. Adjusting the camera was super easy. If you where only adjusting it to the +162, it literally should have taken them less than 5 minutes.

In the link I posted in my previous post, it shows how to get to the service menu in your truck. You should try to got to that. I think there is a function's test somewhere. Maybe give that a go and see if it shows anything that may be causing this?

yeah, that part, agree. but then you get the grayed-out menus and have to recalibrate to reset.

If you're saying that you were successful in doing so completely without TechStream, I might give that a try... although now I've already bought the proper heritage camera and that requires TS for changing the grille type. {grumble}

 

[cmillls45]

I went with these: https://a.co/d/bcrE4Yj

I went with matte, as I feel most gloss black plastic scratches so easily. I will say on my limited the back side of the OEM door handles are indeed gloss black. So with these matte overlays, I technically have a mis-match. As OCD as I am, I don't really notice it, and I don't think anyone else has ever noticed it.

I still will take the barely noticeable mismatch over having scratched black plastic (assuming they scratch easily, but I haven't tested).

Either way, these are the style you want. They are overlays and only cover the OEM paint color part of the handle. So touch and auto-unlock when you put your hand behind the handle still works! I think these where one of the best mods I have done to my truck for the price lol

I have a question, can’t you tell both by feel and looks that there’s an overlay on top of the chrome? I’ve seen either here or the other forum that a guy took a heat gun and melted the glue on backside of the chrome handle. Then he stuck this or some other overlay on.

 

[Slappy]

I have a question, can’t you tell both by feel and looks that there’s an overlay on top of the chrome? I’ve seen either here or the other forum that a guy took a heat gun and melted the glue on backside of the chrome handle. Then he stuck this or some other overlay on.

yeah the door handles have a cap that is held on with with hot glue , ya heat them up gently & pry them off
i changed my celestial silver door handles to black gloss with the oem door handle caps from Rave .. same exact part but in black instead of silver door works as normal
easy peasy
questions just ask
they were $55.oo a set in December
these are caps & are thick injection moldings Not overlays like the ebay junk

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