Upgraded Suspension for excess load

[Taco_Trailhunter]

Hey Y'all,

New Taco owner here, and pumped to be apart of the taco club.

Wanted to see if anyone had insight on how to upgrade the coil springs in the back? Or if they found heavy duty coils that fir the 2024 Tacoma.

I currently am running a Super Pacific Camper Shell which adds 350lbs, and then when I throw in all my camping gear I'm at about 450lbs if additional weight and it squats a decent amount.

Wondering if anyone has any insights into good aftermarket coils or rear air bags that fit the 2024 Tacoma.

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[Miqie]

Wonder if something like this would help.
Airbag

 

[Visa_Declined]

From that pic it certainly doesn't look like it's squatting.

 

[JustAnotherDingus]

has sumo springs released any kit for the 24 tacos yet? They might fit your needs well

 

[h2o-bar]

I put the Loadlifter 5000 Ultimate's on my 23 Tundra. And plan on doing something similar (I have a cabover camper) when I get my new Tacoma. They were pretty easy to instal and leveled out the truck perfectly. Airlift's site doesn't show fitment for the 24's yet but I'm happy about the adjustability and quality of the kit so far.

https://www.airliftcompany.com/shop/88383

 

[gofastdan]

I should have my Lone Peak Overland wedge camper installed in the next week or so and have been researching this for some time and so far haven't found any great solutions.

Glorified bump stops like Timbren or Sumo Springs seem like a poor solution since by definition you're sitting on the bump stops before they even come into play. They would be great for big hits but I don't want the truck sitting on them 24/7.

Air bags may be a solution but so far I haven't found anyone with fitment for the Tacoma yet.

IMHO if you're going to leave the weight on permanently, which I plan on doing, then the best solution would be to replace the stock springs with revised rate springs. Plenty of companies like Ironman sell them but, again, there aren't any fitments available yet that I'm aware of.

Another solution might be the 2" rear spacer that Peak Suspension has. I already installed the Wescott Designs level kit on my truck so it's basically level right now. That's with a 2.5 inch preload spacer on the front and .75 inch on the back. Going with Peak's 2 inch spacer on the back might equal a level load once the weight is on the truck. If I'd been smart I would have just installed Peak's full kit since replacing the Wescott rear spacer with Peak's is a bit of a waste but I had purchased the Wescott kit before Peak even announced theirs.

I guess that's the problem with being an early adopter....

 

[Taco_Trailhunter]

From that pic it certainly doesn't look like it's squatting.

I added the Westcott designs 1 inch rear spacer, and all of the camping gear was out of the truck when I took this photo.

 

[Taco_Trailhunter]

I should have my Lone Peak Overland wedge camper installed in the next week or so and have been researching this for some time and so far haven't found any great solutions.

Glorified bump stops like Timbren or Sumo Springs seem like a poor solution since by definition you're sitting on the bump stops before they even come into play. They would be great for big hits but I don't want the truck sitting on them 24/7.

Air bags may be a solution but so far I haven't found anyone with fitment for the Tacoma yet.

IMHO if you're going to leave the weight on permanently, which I plan on doing, then the best solution would be to replace the stock springs with revised rate springs. Plenty of companies like Ironman sell them but, again, there aren't any fitments available yet that I'm aware of.

Another solution might be the 2" rear spacer that Peak Suspension has. I already installed the Wescott Designs level kit on my truck so it's basically level right now. That's with a 2.5 inch preload spacer on the front and .75 inch on the back. Going with Peak's 2 inch spacer on the back might equal a level load once the weight is on the truck. If I'd been smart I would have just installed Peak's full kit since replacing the Wescott rear spacer with Peak's is a bit of a waste but I had purchased the Wescott kit before Peak even announced theirs.

I guess that's the problem with being an early adopter....

I added the westcott spacer to just the rear of the truck and that brought it back to level with the camper. However, once I start adding in gear to the back it starts to squat again.

I think upgraded springs are the solution since I will be under a constant load of around 400lbs.

Let me know if you find any aftermarket springs, and I will keep you posted as well since you will prob have the same camper with your camper

 

[StreeTaco]

https://theyotagarage.com/products/icon-5-rear-lift-triple-rate-springs-2024-toyota-tacoma

Only 1/2” but this is the only spring option I’m seeing

 

[Gurvy522]

The Icon springs are actually softer than stock, according to the folks over there. I'm also interested in stiffer rear springs / sumo / bags for towing purposes, and had asked them what the spring rate is, as they advertise them as "triple rate", so I guess they're progressive?

Anyways, they replied back and told me the spring rates are a "proprietary design" and can't share that information..... But mentioned they were softer than stock. So if anyone is looking at this thread considering these to increase your rear load, I guess we'll have to wait for other options.

 

[rchrds]

Glorified bump stops like Timbren or Sumo Springs seem like a poor solution since by definition you're sitting on the bump stops before they even come into play. They would be great for big hits but I don't want the truck sitting on them 24/7.

By design, the Timbren do not sit on the bumper when unloaded, and should actually not touch the bumper until you are above the rated max gross. I have Timbren bumpers on my 2004 with upgraded leaf springs, and found that after waaay exceeding the load limits of the vehicle the new springs flattened enough that the truck eventually just barely touches the timbrens when unloaded now (I've had them on for 15 years.) I cannot recommend Timbren enough. They have absolutely saved my springs by preventing them from being completely overloaded. I fully plan to add them to my new 2024. When heavily loaded the Timbrens add resistance evenly- from not much slightly loaded to a huge amount when heavily loaded. My 2004 rides much more smoothly with 1500 lbs of gear in the back riding on the Timbrens then it does unloaded on the stiffer springs alone.

 

[Gurvy522]

By design, the Timbren do not sit on the bumper when unloaded, and should actually not touch the bumper until you are above the rated max gross. I have Timbren bumpers on my 2004 with upgraded leaf springs, and found that after waaay exceeding the load limits of the vehicle the new springs flattened enough that the truck eventually just barely touches the timbrens when unloaded now (I've had them on for 15 years.) I cannot recommend Timbren enough. They have absolutely saved my springs by preventing them from being completely overloaded. I fully plan to add them to my new 2024. When heavily loaded the Timbrens add resistance evenly- from not much slightly loaded to a huge amount when heavily loaded. My 2004 rides much more smoothly with 1500 lbs of gear in the back riding on the Timbrens then it does unloaded on the stiffer springs alone.

Looks like Timbren has a set for the Tacoma now. Trying to consider whether I want to wait for an air setup, or just go with the Timbrens.

https://timbren.com/products/2024-t...u-torseq3?variant=47342033731866&currency=USD

Based on what you're saying, the Timbren solution is really only doing anything when the rear axle is under load? Since they're basically extended bump stops that have a bit of give to them?

 

[rchrds]

Looks like Timbren has a set for the Tacoma now. Trying to consider whether I want to wait for an air setup, or just go with the Timbrens.

https://timbren.com/products/2024-t...u-torseq3?variant=47342033731866&currency=USD

Based on what you're saying, the Timbren solution is really only doing anything when the rear axle is under load? Since they're basically extended bump stops that have a bit of give to them?

Yes correct. They are designed to not touch the suspension until you start flexing it. I imagine they work well on fast ups and downs, but that's not how I use them. For the heavy loads, they are much simpler than air bags, though not as adjustable, obviously.

 

[elturco]

I am looking into this same issue. Did anyone installed an upgraded coil spring? I am looking into purchasing the trail hunter spring...

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