Engine Debris -- Oil change @ 1000 miles results

[JBSwine]

Is this picture from inside your oil pan? if so, how did you capture it?

Endoscope is my guess.

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[Fiigtaco]

Is this picture from inside your oil pan? if so, how did you capture it?

pretty sure this was the pan the oil was drained into, since he said the filter was also dumped into this pan and it may have came from there.

 

[M40A1]

pretty sure this was the pan the oil was drained into, since he said the filter was also dumped into this pan and it may have came from there.

Yeah, that makes sense. FWIW, the drain plug goes in diagonally, and I wonder how much oil and debris is could be left in the undrained well. makes me wish I had changed the oil in mine as soon as I got it home. For future new vehicle purchases, I think I will start doing that.

 

[Rover Rover]

I did my first change at 2k miles and was surprised to see a bit of physical particulates dripping into the drain pan when removing the filter. Not so much from main oil pan drain itself. At $35 in materials plus perhaps the investment in a torque wrench, I think it's a worthwhile endeavor...Or at least finding someone to do it for you- there isn't too much to screw up if you supply the OEM filter, gasket, and torque specs.

 

[webshot]

Just did my first oil change at 3K. No debris in the pan or on the drain plug.

 

[LincolnSixAlpha]

I wouldn't disagree with you, just sharing what I found is all.

 

[LincolnSixAlpha]

The Toyota OEM oils, while still meeting the same spec, are structured quite a bit differently than any other off the shelf oil. It may be beneficial to use the Toyota stuff for the first 5 to 10,000. Not for the warranty work, but some theoretical longevity benefits because of the additives.

A very fair comment indeed, and you may be quite right in that. I did notice that the OEM oil in the Truck seemed thinner than the 0W-20 Pennsoil I put in. But with that said I did discover that OEM's haven't been using break-in oil in vehicles since the 90's based on some info I found online. But who knows.

 

[GMak621]

I use this for oil changes and it easily cleans.

Can spot any debris and shows precise levels on emptying

And the best is no splash back

 

[Sandeep1994]

Did my first oil change at 6000 km . Drained oil pan and filter in separate containers . Oil pan was clean but found some small debris in oil filter . Photo attached .
one thing i am confused is that toyota manual book asks for 5.9 q of new oil but only got 4.7 q out in drained oil . Looks like engine did consumed some oil . I went to manual book and found on page 525 that when engine is new it will consume some oil .
anyone else noticed that ??

 

[LincolnSixAlpha]

Did my first oil change at 6000 km . Drained oil pan and filter in separate containers . Oil pan was clean but found some small debris in oil filter . Photo attached .
one thing i am confused is that toyota manual book asks for 5.9 q of new oil but only got 4.7 q out in drained oil . Looks like engine did consumed some oil . I went to manual book and found on page 525 that when engine is new it will consume some oil .
anyone else noticed that ??

So I'd like to respond to your comments. Prior to my first oil change, I checked my oil level several times, over the first few week or so, and basically piled on 1K miles in that week so I could swap it out, and break the engine in faster.

I noticed that every time I checked the oil, it was halfway between the two lines, but when I added 6 quarts on that first change, the oil level was right at the very top, by the max line.

My thoughts are that they send these trucks out the door without filling the crankcase with the full 6 quarts to save money, but it could be an issue with the oil filling station. I'm sure we'll never get the full answer on that however, mine was not filled with 6 quarts.

I will say that at no time did my engine consume any oil, as the oil level stayed constant every time I checked it. I will be monitoring my engine over the next 4k miles until I hit the 5K mark, at which point I'll back off on checking the oil as much.

 

[Sandeep1994]

So I'd like to respond to your comments. Prior to my first oil change, I checked my oil level several times, over the first few week or so, and basically piled on 1K miles in that week so I could swap it out, and break the engine in faster.

I noticed that every time I checked the oil, it was halfway between the two lines, but when I added 6 quarts on that first change, the oil level was right at the very top, by the max line.

My thoughts are that they send these trucks out the door without filling the crankcase with the full 6 quarts to save money, but it could be an issue with the oil filling station. I'm sure we'll never get the full answer on that however, mine was not filled with 6 quarts.

I will say that at no time did my engine consume any oil, as the oil level stayed constant every time I checked it. I will be monitoring my engine over the next 4k miles until I hit the 5K mark, at which point I'll back off on checking the oil as much.

Yes before oil change dip stick would show me in between full and low point and after after doing oil cahnge i put 5.7q and dip stick started showing me little over the full dot . So i called my mechanic friend if i should take some out he said wait for a day and now after a day its little below full point which is good

 

[Buckeye Chris]

Interesting. I just changed mine at approx. 850 miles. No debris at all

I bought a 2019 VW Golf brand new in 2020. After about a month, the oil change reminder came on since it had been about 10 months to a year from the date of manufacture. I only had about 1000 miles on it. It came with synthetic so it was very early for an oil change (according to miles). I called the dealership to see if I should change the oil. They advised, after consulting with a VW specialist, that I should wait until I had at least 2500 miles before my first oil change. They said my car was delivered with special break in oil and best not to change it with so few miles. Don’t know if this applies here or not.

 

[M1KL83]

Doing early oil change tomorrow approx 1200km.
Thank you for the heads up on metal particules.
Makes me feel even better about early oil change.

 

[BrisketTacos]

Hi LincolnSixAlpha,
I really appreciate you posting this. I’m also a new 2024 Tacoma owner (this is my first post here). I have been debating on whether or not to change early. Of course every Toyota dealership I’ve called said it isn’t necessary but after seeing this I’m going to go ahead and change the oil early myself. I’ll let Toyota take care of the regular scheduled maintenance for the first couple years but will plan on doing this when I get back from a trip to the coast next week. Heck maybe I’ll go ahead and do it before I leave on Friday. I’m currently at ~650 miles and will likely be around 1,000-1,200 miles by the time I get back.

10,000 miles seems crazy to me for the first oil change. Thanks again!

I am brand new owner, almost 200 miles. Im aiming for 1500 miles and I'll get a quick pep boys change. then go to the dealership to get the main stuff done/looked at. i may do it myself but I got to the stuff for all that, My old car I let honda do the work LOL

 

[LincolnSixAlpha]

I am brand new owner, almost 200 miles. Im aiming for 1500 miles and I'll get a quick pep boys change. then go to the dealership to get the main stuff done/looked at. i may do it myself but I got to the stuff for all that, My old car I let honda do the work LOL

I'd say get it a try yourself. It wasn't too difficult, I didn't even have to put my floor jack under the Tacoma as I did with my Silverado.

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