Thomasr1950
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Is the hybrid better than the nonhybrid? What's the difference in pr?
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What's your definition of "better"? If better means you want/need to go faster quicker, maybe get a couple of MPG better, and a 2400 watt inverter instead of 400, go hybrid; if not, save the probably $3,000 for a simpler, but still totally great Taco! And $3,000 buys a lot of gas!Is the hybrid better than the nonhybrid? What's the difference in pr?
Same engine. The difference in cost is the battery/hybrid system. I do agree, if a $3000 (est) difference, one will go a long way before breaking even. As I see it, the real advantage in the hybrid system is the additional power, especially if towing.The bigger engine is $3,000 more? If so, I'll get the other engine. That's a steep increase. Any idea when the price will be announced?
Probably this summer, and as Nuke said, it's the same engine, just an addition of the battery/hybrid system. I also wonder how much the additional weight will detract from mpg? I'm going I Force, not Max, doing a rear seat delete, and giving my 100 lb Pittie/Mastiff a lot more room!The bigger engine is $3,000 more? If so, I'll get the other engine. That's a steep increase. Any idea when the price will be announced?
I’ll be curious to see real payload numbers on hybrid - particularly 4wd crew cabs. The non-hybrids are still pretty low. I’m seeing ~1200 lbs from reviews that show door sticker. If hybrid system cuts into that number then wouldn’t have much payload left for towing or hauling.especially if towing.
The MAX system is not a "traditional" Toyota hybrid system. The MAX system simply sandwiches an electric motor between the engine & transmission, and kicks in only during takeoff or pedal requests for significantly more power. There still is an alternator in the MAX trucks. The electric motor does NOT run full time, does NOT offer a short distance EV only mode. It is designed to add significant power & torque boosts to the gas motor, and fuel economy is only slightly better than the gas motor in both city and highway, unlike the bigger mpg boost from the more traditional hybrid systems.An advantage to the hybrid system is, as I understand it, no alternator, and the starter is used rarely.
If I am not mistaken, the primary starter in the Tundra hybrid is the electric motor, with a standard starter as a backup, and during especially cold conditions. However, I have no idea if the Tacoma system will be the same. Unsure re the alternator. I like the electric A/C compressor, IF used, as no magnetic clutch, belt, or seal issues to contend with.The MAX system is not a "traditional" Toyota hybrid system. The MAX system simply sandwiches an electric motor between the engine & transmission, and kicks in only during takeoff or pedal requests for significantly more power. There still is an alternator in the MAX trucks. The electric motor does NOT run full time, does NOT offer a short distance EV only mode. It is designed to add significant power & torque boosts to the gas motor, and fuel economy is only slightly better than the gas motor in both city and highway, unlike the bigger mpg boost from the more traditional hybrid systems.