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Alright, I think I am taking my deposit off of the Tacoma TRD Offroad, Hybrid Max with the premium package and buying the GMC Canyon AT4. Will anyone care to talk me out of it?
I live in Alberta, Canada and currently I own a GMC Sierra 2500 with 520,000 KM (323,000 mile for you heathens South of the border). I put my deposit down on the Tacoma in December. In February I test drove a manual transmission Tacoma Sport and the Offroad Automatic Transmission with the premium package. I did not like the manual. It was loud, felt under powered and was uninspiring. The 8-speed auto was much quieter and felt better to drive. I really did enjoy it but, in all honesty, I felt that the interior was nicer in the Canyon, it drove much smoother, and the cabin was quieter. I was anticipating that the Iforce Max would give it that extra oomf and make the ride something special. I love Toyotas. I have been very excited waiting to find out news and reviews. I was willing to overlook the short comings of the Taco because of the boosted performance of the hybrid engine and Toyotaās legendary reliability. I drive a lot: 30,0000 km (18,000 miles) a year. There is a lot of highway driving, but I also do a lot of hunting and fishing. It is important that the vehicle is offroad capable, but this is pretty light duty, unlike some dedicated devotes on this site. The electronic locking rear diff, disconnecting sway bar and the crawl control on the TRD Offroad make it superior over the Canyon for this purpose. How often have I needed this? Not often. The day to day driving qualities is much more important to me. In the end I want a truck that drives like and SUV but can perform the duties of a truck and handle a bit of light off roading. Iāve watched a bunch of the reviews today for the new hybrid models and the comment that stuck out was that they found the hybrid performance was just a bit better but not miles ahead. I thought with the bit of extra horsepower and the gobs more torque it would make it feel like a completely different machine. It didnāt though.
The Tacoma TRD Off-road is a more capable off-road beast than the Canyon and the tech is very impressive. But as a daily driver the Canyon just feels better. The seat and steering wheel position is more comfortable, the handing and the response of the Canyon is more SUV like, the visibility over the hood is better and the interior seems more upscale both visually and to the touch. Any performance gains that are achieved with the added horsepower and torque of the iforce max engine are offset by the fact that the Taco is 500lbs heavier than the standard Tacoma and 600 lbs more than the Canyon. This is the kicker: In order to get that extra performance offered by the hybrid engine, to match the Canyon it is going to cost me $7000.00 more in Canadian dollars than the standard Tacoma with the same options and trim which is putting me within spitting distance of a F150 in a middle trim. I just donāt want or need a full-sized truck.
I am finding it hard to justify the trucky feel of a truck that will tow less, haul less and cost me $7000.00 more than a slightly less off-road capable Canyon AT4 but a better feeling daily driver.
As well, and I might need to do some more shopping around but the insurance on the Tacoma is between $300.00 to $600.00 a year more the Canyon. This almost makes up for the higher fuel cost of operating the Canyon.
Moreover, I get a preferred customer discount on GM products that amounts to another 3500.00 in savings. The financing cost of a Tacoma are also almost 2% higher than the Canyon. That basically amounts to a $10,000.00 difference between the Canyon and the Taco with a much higher financing cost compounding that amount.
So is the Tacoma really worth the extra ten to twelve thousand dollars more?
........and Go!!!!!
I live in Alberta, Canada and currently I own a GMC Sierra 2500 with 520,000 KM (323,000 mile for you heathens South of the border). I put my deposit down on the Tacoma in December. In February I test drove a manual transmission Tacoma Sport and the Offroad Automatic Transmission with the premium package. I did not like the manual. It was loud, felt under powered and was uninspiring. The 8-speed auto was much quieter and felt better to drive. I really did enjoy it but, in all honesty, I felt that the interior was nicer in the Canyon, it drove much smoother, and the cabin was quieter. I was anticipating that the Iforce Max would give it that extra oomf and make the ride something special. I love Toyotas. I have been very excited waiting to find out news and reviews. I was willing to overlook the short comings of the Taco because of the boosted performance of the hybrid engine and Toyotaās legendary reliability. I drive a lot: 30,0000 km (18,000 miles) a year. There is a lot of highway driving, but I also do a lot of hunting and fishing. It is important that the vehicle is offroad capable, but this is pretty light duty, unlike some dedicated devotes on this site. The electronic locking rear diff, disconnecting sway bar and the crawl control on the TRD Offroad make it superior over the Canyon for this purpose. How often have I needed this? Not often. The day to day driving qualities is much more important to me. In the end I want a truck that drives like and SUV but can perform the duties of a truck and handle a bit of light off roading. Iāve watched a bunch of the reviews today for the new hybrid models and the comment that stuck out was that they found the hybrid performance was just a bit better but not miles ahead. I thought with the bit of extra horsepower and the gobs more torque it would make it feel like a completely different machine. It didnāt though.
The Tacoma TRD Off-road is a more capable off-road beast than the Canyon and the tech is very impressive. But as a daily driver the Canyon just feels better. The seat and steering wheel position is more comfortable, the handing and the response of the Canyon is more SUV like, the visibility over the hood is better and the interior seems more upscale both visually and to the touch. Any performance gains that are achieved with the added horsepower and torque of the iforce max engine are offset by the fact that the Taco is 500lbs heavier than the standard Tacoma and 600 lbs more than the Canyon. This is the kicker: In order to get that extra performance offered by the hybrid engine, to match the Canyon it is going to cost me $7000.00 more in Canadian dollars than the standard Tacoma with the same options and trim which is putting me within spitting distance of a F150 in a middle trim. I just donāt want or need a full-sized truck.
I am finding it hard to justify the trucky feel of a truck that will tow less, haul less and cost me $7000.00 more than a slightly less off-road capable Canyon AT4 but a better feeling daily driver.
As well, and I might need to do some more shopping around but the insurance on the Tacoma is between $300.00 to $600.00 a year more the Canyon. This almost makes up for the higher fuel cost of operating the Canyon.
Moreover, I get a preferred customer discount on GM products that amounts to another 3500.00 in savings. The financing cost of a Tacoma are also almost 2% higher than the Canyon. That basically amounts to a $10,000.00 difference between the Canyon and the Taco with a much higher financing cost compounding that amount.
So is the Tacoma really worth the extra ten to twelve thousand dollars more?
........and Go!!!!!
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