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I don't understand 4th gen owners who hate their trucks because there have been a few issues. Are they aware that most other brands have far more issues than Toyota does?

If you dump your Taco because of a problem which was fixed under warranty and move to another brand, it is not going to be the perfect world you might expect.
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I don't understand 4th gen owners who hate their trucks because there have been a few issues. Are they aware that most other brands have far more issues than Toyota does?

If you dump your Taco because of a problem which was fixed under warranty and move to another brand, it is not going to be the perfect world you might expect.
I'm going to say it more the amount of money that any consumer spends and then has issues with the product. The fact that a 60k plus vehicle or even a 40k vehicle has issues is bs. Sone of us just accept and deal with it better than others. Even though these are on the lower middle price range of new trucks it does suck to pay 50k and it be broken or back at the dealer. It's not just Toyota it's every manufacturer from cellphones to refrigerators
 

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You’ve never owned an Audi I assume.
A6 Sline and Q7 and the only issue that I had was leaving sunroof down parked at the bar when I was smart enough to not drive. Well it rained, a lot.... fried everything in center console.
 

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I question anyone who drives a 3G and prefers it to the 4G. That engine while reliable was an anemic boat anchor and the transmission was very outdated. The new generation is more powerful, more refined, more spacious, and better looking IMO. No hate on the previous gen, they’re great reliable trucks but the internet trolls knocking the latest and greatest are nothing but envious haters.
How would you rate the 5th gen 4Runner?
 

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How would you rate the 5th gen 4Runner?
Love it. I feel the 6th gen is better all around, however. When I initially responded I thought you were asking about the current gen. My dad has a 2020 4Runner and it’s a reliable truck but it drives like it belongs in the last decade too.
 

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Love it. Better power train. Better tech. Better all around. People don’t like change, I get it but they’ll come around. The 22R was a 2.4 inline and it’s an iconic Toyota engine. I look at this T24 as an evolution of that engine for the modern day. Time will tell its reliability but I trust Toyota.
Loved the reliability of my 86 with 22RE and 5 speed but other than that it had 2 old stop signs welded to the floor with feed sacks under the rubber mats, frame welded god knows how many times. Had the power of a small go cart. These trucks are light years ahead of the old ones. Now if I can find a cherry 1980s, a mint 2003 I'd buy it in a heartbeat just as collector item but no way I'd take it over this 25 Pro to drive in any situation.
 

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Love it. I feel the 6th gen is better all around, however. When I initially responded I thought you were asking about the current gen. My dad has a 2020 4Runner and it’s a reliable truck but it drives like it belongs in the last decade too.
I bought a 2024 4Runner. That V6 and five speed automatic are as smooth as glass. Slow, but smooth.

I have the new Tacoma so I get to compare it to the old gen 4Runner.

Analog vs Digital. :)
 

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Loved the reliability of my 86 with 22RE and 5 speed but other than that it had 2 old stop signs welded to the floor with feed sacks under the rubber mats, frame welded god knows how many times. Had the power of a small go cart. These trucks are light years ahead of the old ones. Now if I can find a cherry 1980s, a mint 2003 I'd buy it in a heartbeat just as collector item but no way I'd take it over this 25 Pro to drive in any situation.
Hopefully this engine will be looked upon in time as the evolution of the 22RE. It’s a 2.4 I4 after all.
 

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As a 2024 Tacoma owner I don’t understand the hate that this generation of truck gets. Previously I drove a 2021 f150 with the 3.5l and 10 speed automatic. This is my first midsize truck. The 8 speed automatic is a night and day difference compared to the 10 speed, I’ve never missed a shift and the 2.4l is very responsive and doesn’t feel underpowered. I’ve never driven a 3rd gen Tacoma however I have always heard that the main gripe with those trucks were the outdated materials and lack of power. It seems that this generation has addressed both concerns and provided a smoother transmission. If ford can make a 2.7 l eco boost that lasts upwards of 200k miles why are some assuming that the 2.4l will not also meet or exceed that mark? I feel that Toyota still makes the best midsize pickup and I am happy with my purchase. (Besides the trailer brake controller issue that is a huge pain in the ass)
I had a 2017 Tacoma. Hated it so much traded it in for a 18 tundra. My 24 Tacoma is light years better than the last generation.
To each their own. I am the opposite, on 2nd gen/ 3rd gen (really a 2.5 gen) - I never liked the awkward seating position, the thirsty V6 that hunts for gears in a transmission that doesn’t know what gear to be in a lot of the time. Lots of rev and gas guzzling show for little go. I never understood why they were so popular. Also the 2005 design though I liked it at first, became an outdated design that wore on me a couple years later and the “lipstick on a pig” redesign in 2016 did not really make me like it more.
So glad to be in a Gen 4, except for the bull Toyota pulled with the trailer brake controller.
I rarely ever see a Tacoma towing let alone a full size pickup but I get that’s what trucks were designed for
 

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I had a 2017 Tacoma. Hated it so much traded it in for a 18 tundra. My 24 Tacoma is light years better than the last generation.

I rarely ever see a Tacoma towing let alone a full size pickup but I get that’s what trucks were designed for

towing not so much but around here you see old tacomas with the back overloaded with landscaping equipment or tools.
 

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I can't hate the 4G Tacoma Trailhunter... I never owned a pickup before! And to go from a heavily customized, did I say HEAVY, 2000 Grand Cherokee to a 2024 Toyota was amazing. The feature set from the factory, and the ability to easily customize, had me in a purpose-built Search and Rescue truck in 4 months compared to the 24 years spent "finalizing" my GC!

Really, the best truck is the one that works for you. It may not work for somebody else but that's great! We have options. Getting to the best truck involves a lot of trial and error and some necessary compromises. Consider that the 3 1/2 pages of customizations on my Grand Cherokee were reduced to 1 1/2 pages on my Tacoma Trailhunter. Some were eliminated as OEM equipment made them redundant and is surprisingly good, even competitive. While some mods on the Jeep are arguably superior to OEM Trailhunter... in the final analysis the OEM stuff is fine in my use case (except for the tires and wheels - they had to go!) Frankly, having an OEM lift kit, inverter, air compressor and more is refreshing. I know that many vehicles now come that way... unlike my 2000 Grand Cherokee that was not intended for the kinds of mods I did anyway.

Many things came as OEM, so commercial VHF radios and other electronics we use, emergency lighting, Leitner, Uptop and Decked gear storage stuff were what I added. Did I say bumper with winch, lights lights lights? I can melt paint at 1000 feet... and illuminate my dog or ESAR teams on the verge, out front, out back too.

I really love my new Tacoma. Yet I continue to feel the pain of moving on from my Jeep... which is now owned by my 4x4 Search and Rescue unit as a command, aviation and logistics support vehicle. I kept all the equipment on board so it could serve for another 10 or 20 years... hopefully we can get parts.
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