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@MustardTiger, Go with the Tacoma all day long, especially for resale. You have to remember that the third GEN Tacoma had transmission issues for a couple of years and it has one of the highest resale values of any vehicle made. You can’t say that for any Chevy or GM product.
 

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@SilverSurfer yeah you're right. It's quite tempting, not gonna lie...but browsing the Colorado forums...yikes. Lots of issues, especially factory quality issues with paint/trim/details. Plus, if you don't have a sunroof...you can't go through an automatic carwash or the roof will dent in. OMG.
 

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Don’t get me wrong, I checked out the Colorado and drove it. The interior is bland the engine lackluster and it’s missing so many of the basics that it’s not really a value compared to the taco. It’s just missing stuff. But yeah, I agree. It’s probably going to have many more problems than the taco too.
 

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Thanks for searching on my behalf, but the dealer just sent me some pics of my truck. I will pick it up this evening.

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Congrats! We’re almost twins (except mine is the LB). It’s a great truck and I think silver suits the body lines well. Enjoy!!
 

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@MustardTiger I agree with the other posts and I would go with the Tacoma also. I shopped the Colorado but it just didn't match up with what I wanted, and it has more issues than the 4th gen does. I just wanted to give you some space to explore your other options on your own.

Car and Driver did a good test between a ZR2 and an Off-Road, and picked the Taco. They said that on paper the Colorado looked like a winner and they were afraid a mob of Taco lovers would come for them when they picked it. But in the end they preferred the Taco and it was thousands of dollars less expensive than the Chevy. Although the ZR2 looks nice, I prefer that look of the Tacoma more, so my choice was easy. Good luck with yours.
 

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Soooo I'm waiting for this (2025 TRD Sport Premium, 6ft, WCP)....due end of January (likely first week of Feb)...

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And....this came up today. Fully loaded. Test drove it, got a deal price. It's the same out the door price as the Taco, albeit a (new) 2024. I'm literally torn! :crazy:

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The Colorado ZR2 is an absolute powerhouse and offers everything you could want—more than the Tacoma, in fact. The engine in the ZR2 is incredibly solid, built with internal components that are even stronger than the Tacoma's. It's designed to last and perform under tough conditions. On top of that, the ride quality of the ZR2 is noticeably smoother and more stable compared to the Tacoma, making it a more comfortable driving experience overall.

One of the standout features of the ZR2 is its suspension—it’s perfectly tuned for both on and off-road performance. I was originally leaning towards the Tacoma, but after test-driving both the ZR2 and the AT4X, I was sold. The ZR2 simply outperforms in several key areas, including rear seat space, which I was surprised to find is actually more spacious than the Tacoma.

When it comes to price, the ZR2 offers incredible value—it’s possibly the best bang for your buck, especially when you consider that a fully loaded ZR2 could be priced the same, or even less, than a similarly equipped Tacoma. If you’re looking for an all-around solid truck, you can’t go wrong with the Colorado.

Moreover, Toyota still has work to do on the new 4th-gen Tacoma, especially with its transmission and some lingering bugs. It might take a couple of years for them to really get it right. In the meantime, the Colorado ZR2 is a proven winner, with no compromises on performance, comfort, or value.
 

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An interesting analysis @Norsk. I don't hate the Chevy, but I too have compared it with the Tacoma and came to a very different decision.

Putting aside the many issues with the Colorado, here is what Car and Driver concluded when comparing a ZR2 to a 4th gen TRD Off-Road.

https://www.caranddriver.com/review...ma-trd-off-road-2023-chevy-colorado-zr2-test/
Yes, I have read Car and Driver about Colorado/Tacoma. I’ve done some research and test driving, and I had the chance to drive both the ZR2 and AT4X. I was really impressed with both, so if you get the time, I’d highly recommend a test drive to see what they’re like.

As for the Tacoma, I do like it, but I have some concerns. Toyota has been facing some transmission issues recently, which is a bit worrisome. There are also a few things I’m not a fan of—such as the rear legroom, the smaller fuel tank, and the overall build quality compared to my old 3rd-gen Tacoma. I’ve also spoken with a few people who have the 4th-gen Tacoma, and they’ve expressed similar concerns about the quality, as well as the smaller fuel tank and rear legroom.

On the other hand, I’ve spoken to several owners of the Colorado/Canyon, and they’ve been very happy with their decision. Interestingly, many of them initially considered the Tacoma but ultimately went with the Colorado/Canyon. The main issue they’ve had is with some electrical problems, but that seems to be the only major concern.

If Toyota shares with us on what's wrong with the transmission and have remedy to prevent future issues, I would get a Tacoma.

Don't get me wrong. I like Tacoma and Colorado.
 

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@Norsk Yep - all valid points, and the Colorado was the only other truck I seriously considered. Both trucks have some issues, but that seems to just be how things are in the automotive world today.

Like I said in my first post to this thread, I don't think @MustardTiger could go wrong with either truck, but needs to drive both and pick his favorite. If you can afford and find one, a Ranger Raptor is super cool too, but I have not looked closely at them.
 

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All great points guys...truly appreciate you taking the time to give feedback and comments! Currently I am still on course with the 2025 Tacoma. I do think the ZR2 is an absolute beast...truly a legit off roader, turn key from the dealer lot. It does come up short on a few things unrelated to it's off-road nature. As for the engine, it seems robust, but long term reliability is TBD. I've read many comments that oil consumption is being accepted by owners at 0.5-1 quart per 5k mile oil change...which to me, is unacceptable. The 2.7T also has an electric water pump, and there is only direct fuel injection. I'm sure the durability is there...but GM hasn't really built a bulletproof 4 popper in decades...the ecotec line has experienced many many issues. However...the 2.7 was built from the ground up as a dedicated truck engine, so there's that reassurance.

The Colorado does trump the Tacoma with some options/features, but lacks things like a bed camera, true lane centering driving assist, power passenger seat, and I think it could seriously benefit from some active noise cancelling (...engine autotune through the speakers). It would make the driving experience far more upscale, even if it is fake. I happen to really like it in the Tacoma. It's a little overbearing in the Tundra however
 

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yeah they are starting to show up in allocations around here too. means its only 2-3 months from lots.

LA auto show is this weekend? probably make things official then
 

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I placed an order on a 2025 saturday, to avoid hopefully all the ridiculouse port add ons, i have a feeling that toyota may change on the crazy add ons, from dealership levels , there are a large amount of SR 5,s that have been loaded up to price that model over where it should be and dealers are sitting on them
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