Can't Drive 2024 Trailhunter Past 75 mph

[maxx075]

Hi, I’m Jake from State Farm. Nice of you to publicly share that you drive 90+ regularly. Of course we already knew that because Toyota sells that information to us. Check your next renewal for a little surprise from us.

My tickets already explain that. I opted out of that shit in the dealership parking lot anyways.

Nice khakis.

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[Miqie]

OP, if you were in the STL area

I used to be a tech, one thing we were always taught about vibrations on courses. If you think the vibration isn’t wheels or tires it likely is, if you still don’t think it’s wheels and tires, it likely is.

my advice, take the truck to a tire shop that uses a Hunter Road Force Wheel Balancer, not all dealers have them, maybe check to see if your Toyota dealer did have one. The Hunter balancer can diagnose wheel/tire problems. they are the best in the industry. I’ll also say often times these sorts of low mileage vibration issues often go to apprentices, and they just rebalance wheels, but don’t really understand ways to fix wheel and tire balance issues. youll have no problem finding a tire shop in major cities with that balancer - or even call some other Toyota dealers. I’ve learned over the years, the statement to be true - all vibrations are wheel and tire issues. Some can be solved with a good balance, other times it’s a bad rim or a bad tire. But a good tire tech with a Hunter balancer will give you answers For sure.

If you were in the STL area where Hunter is headquartered, you could take it there and I bet they'd be more than happy to run it through their machines. I used to get my car aligned every couple of years there for free. They use your vehicle to teach the techs from the company's that they sell their alignment machines to.

 

[hemlockz]

I used to be a tech, one thing we were always taught about vibrations on courses. If you think the vibration isn’t wheels or tires it likely is, if you still don’t think it’s wheels and tires, it likely is.

my advice, take the truck to a tire shop that uses a Hunter Road Force Wheel Balancer, not all dealers have them, maybe check to see if your Toyota dealer did have one. The Hunter balancer can diagnose wheel/tire problems. they are the best in the industry. I’ll also say often times these sorts of low mileage vibration issues often go to apprentices, and they just rebalance wheels, but don’t really understand ways to fix wheel and tire balance issues. youll have no problem finding a tire shop in major cities with that balancer - or even call some other Toyota dealers. I’ve learned over the years, the statement to be true - all vibrations are wheel and tire issues. Some can be solved with a good balance, other times it’s a bad rim or a bad tire. But a good tire tech with a Hunter balancer will give you answers For sure.

What is your experience with those balancing beads you can put in the tires? Do they really work?

 

[Stringent]

I used to be a tech, one thing we were always taught about vibrations on courses. If you think the vibration isn’t wheels or tires it likely is, if you still don’t think it’s wheels and tires, it likely is.

my advice, take the truck to a tire shop that uses a Hunter Road Force Wheel Balancer, not all dealers have them, maybe check to see if your Toyota dealer did have one. The Hunter balancer can diagnose wheel/tire problems. they are the best in the industry. I’ll also say often times these sorts of low mileage vibration issues often go to apprentices, and they just rebalance wheels, but don’t really understand ways to fix wheel and tire balance issues. youll have no problem finding a tire shop in major cities with that balancer - or even call some other Toyota dealers. I’ve learned over the years, the statement to be true - all vibrations are wheel and tire issues. Some can be solved with a good balance, other times it’s a bad rim or a bad tire. But a good tire tech with a Hunter balancer will give you answers For sure.

My gut is telling me the same, thanks for the input.

 

[Sner]

What is your experience with those balancing beads you can put in the tires? Do they really work?

Not for this sort of application. Those beads were originally developed for motor homes and that sort of thing if memory serves me, they’ve eventually crept into automotive. for modern vehicles with tight suspensions, larger wheels, they don’t get the job done. wheel and tire vibrations are more and more common in vehicles than 40 years ago. With all the tighter tolerances on a modern car, those beads are from a generation long gone.

 

[bitflogger]

Yep, spot on. It was remarkable to see everyone walk away from the issue using the speed limit as an excuse. Lesson learned in regards to Toyota.

I love so many things about this truck, it is a real shame. Going to try new tires at some point, not much else I can do.

You can go to a highly qualified tire professional and keep printed reports and receipts for your results. 2x over a long time that was how I resolved problems like this.

I also had an instance with an OEM tire on the edge of spec when the dealer and general Michelin consumer support were not helping. A discount tire store worked with their Michelin rep and got an adjustment for replacing the OEM with replacement tires. It was still an out of pocket cost from full life of the OEM tires but solved 1) the annoying problem and 2) got me the superior to OEM tire sooner.

If these are hub or lug-centric is something I don't know but not all places are good with hub-centric balancing but it is not like 12-20 years ago where a lot of places didn't even have the right equipment.

Also, my experience with large sized AT class tires is they can always be less than ideal for highway use. I caught that red flag just with test drives of the halo models and competing vehicles. The civility of the OEM Trail-Terrain tires OR models have stood out only doing test drives at lower speeds than 75. Lots of different vehicle testing had me thinking they would be good regardless.

 

[Stringent]

You can go to a highly qualified tire professional and keep printed reports and receipts for your results. 2x over a long time that was how I resolved problems like this.

I also had an instance with an OEM tire on the edge of spec when the dealer and general Michelin consumer support were not helping. A discount tire store worked with their Michelin rep and got an adjustment for replacing the OEM with replacement tires. It was still an out of pocket cost from full life of the OEM tires but solved 1) the annoying problem and 2) got me the superior to OEM tire sooner.

If these are hub or lug-centric is something I don't know but not all places are good with hub-centric balancing but it is not like 12-20 years ago where a lot of places didn't even have the right equipment.

Also, my experience with large sized AT class tires is they can always be less than ideal for highway use. I caught that red flag just with test drives of the halo models and competing vehicles. The civility of the OEM Trail-Terrain tires OR models have stood out only doing test drives at lower speeds than 75. Lots of different vehicle testing had me thinking they would be good regardless.

Makes sense and thank you!

 

[Gear_yyc]

On my Avalanche when I had a vibration at a specific speed (103km/h), I used a vibration recorder app on my phone to get the frequency of the vibration that shot up in amplitude at that speed. From there, converted the Hz to RPM and then did some math to see what RPM my tires, driveshaft, etc were going at 103km/h and found that the speed of my driveshaft matched the vibration.

...but as above, MOST of the time, it's the wheels/tires.

 

[Xjim]

Yep, spot on. It was remarkable to see everyone walk away from the issue using the speed limit as an excuse. Lesson learned in regards to Toyota.

I love so many things about this truck, it is a real shame. Going to try new tires at some point, not much else I can do.

I have had past problems with tires other than Michelin and Bridgestone on my Toyotas, Camry’s and my last Tacoma a 2005. The 2005 had issues with lug vs hub centric balancing. But the 2005 prefer Michelin and had to be lug balanced or Tire Discounters road force seemed to be ok too.
My 2024 Tacoma Sport came with Michelins and I have not had any issues with them 10+ miles.

 

[Mentat Bashar]

I’m wondering if you may have a driveshaft that needs rebalancing.

 

[Chileburger]

I’m wondering if you may have a driveshaft that needs rebalancing.

You read my mind. I had this experience with a 1976 f100 that is in really great shape. The truck would start vibrating in the front end at highway speeds so I had the wheels/tires balanced twice with no luck. Someone suggested rebuilding the u-joints and having the driveshaft balanced and the problem went away.

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